2022.07.02 - Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, London, England

Legendary rock band Guns n Roses are late for their gig at Tottenham Stadium for the second night in a row and fans are fuming. Despite publicising a start time of 6.45pm, the band still weren't on stage at 8.15pm.

The delayed start time trumps the hour delay of last night (Friday July 1), when Guns n Roses came on stage at around 7.45pm. Frustrated fans said the crowd were getting bored with some complaining of the person next to them showing them wedding photos, people getting too drunk, and the crowd resorting to doing Mexican waves.

Fans called for a refund and complained that the late start would mean a late finish which many would have to miss as they rushed for their trains. Some noted that Friday night's concert had been five or six songs shorter than at previous gigs already.

Blackstar wrote:Nightrain

Soulmonster wrote:I feel for Axl - I can imagine it must have upset him a lot. Still, sounds good although it takes some getting used to and on some songs the dynamics between low and high is lost. And people had a great time. Go Axl!!

ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything

Soulmonster wrote:

ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything

Me too, if this is the kind of tirade of negativity I'd have to read every time you did!

ludurigan wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:

ludurigan wrote:I am so glag that I don't usually listen to this "GNR" because this guy just fucking kills all the song with his crap drumminng, crap fills, crap changes, crap everything

Me too, if this is the kind of tirade of negativity I'd have to read every time you did!

sorry about that negativiity

look i have seen countless drummers playing guns n roses and 99% of them do a great job

Or at least an accceptable job -- by acceptable I mean that they "disappear" on the song, meaning that you listen to the song and you don't think about the drumming, you don't get distracted by it

some of the guys that play GNR over the years were actually just as good as steven or at least good enough that you don't worry to much or that j=yyou just get used to them

like matt

like fred coury from those shows in 1987

and like tommy clufetos from the "slash and friends" shows about 10 years ago, what a good drummer

seriously, any medium-skilled level drummer can play those songs properly

but axl has constantly chosen guys that just can't

brian is a huge drummer but he is not made to play GNR songs the same way slash is a great guitar player but he is not made to play samba

and this frank dude is the absolutely worst

you gotta respect the song

that is rule #1 oin the music business

if you are good enough -- like clufetos, like so many -- then you can change the song and add your own thing to it

you gotta be good to do that

and being good has nothing to do with "druming technique"

it's about knowing where to place stuff, about timing, about feel, groove etc

this frank dude has none of that

and to add insult to the injury, for whatever reason he seems to believe that he is better than the songs

but he is just not

Soulmonster wrote:Here's what Axl says after Estranged, as far as I can tell:

"Okay, so as you can probably tell, I'm having a few issues [pointing to throat], but these shows are really important to us [?], I slept here last night to make sure...so I'll be switching the songs [?] vocally, I hope you don't mind. We would like to [?]".

Soulmonster wrote:He really started struggling under Welcome to the Jungle - I don't think I have heard him have so much voice problems before. It must be terrible noticing your voice go, not being able to reach those high notes accurately and with any sustain, after only four songs into a set.

Soulmonster wrote: Look, I don't think Frank is great either, but I wouldn't rag on him for not being the best drummer in GN'R. I am sure he does the best he can. If anything, I'd criticize Axl for hiring him, but then I realize that other factors play into things like hat, like social skills, reliability, salaries, etc.