Official update from the band

by **Soulmonster** Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:59 am

Posted on Facebook 12 hours ago:

Generally speaking, at this time we have no information on tours, albums, or DVDs. When things get confirmed we will let you know. Thank you for your patience.

I would have put it in the news section, but it isn't really news that there are no news.

by **Johan** Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:38 pm

Come on guys, give us something to at least let us hope that anything will happen within the next 3 years..

by **Soulmonster** Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:26 pm

Johan wrote:

Come on guys, give us something to at least let us hope that anything will happen within the next 3 years..

At least they say "when something is confirmed", suggesting they are actually trying to make something happen, which is a lot better than the band just going on hiatus or disbanding. But still....come on!

by **Johan** Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:20 pm

Thank you for your patience is one hell of an understatement with this band Wink

by **Soulmonster** Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:18 am

Johan wrote:Thank you for your patience is one hell of an understatement with this band

Heh, yep. Actually, patience isn't what is needed, what you need as a fan is the ability to just decouple everything in your life from the band, have absolutely zero expectations, and just take anything that happens as a surprising plus. If you have patience it means you are actually waiting for something, and that is not a god strategy because at least half of what the band promises is never realized.

by **Uli** Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:10 am

Official update, hurray! "When things get confirmed", there is hope etc.!

(What, me, being sarcastic? Never!) Innocent

by **Soulmonster** Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:25 am

With nothing to report from Team Brazil, most band members being busy with side projects, and Bumblefoot explicitly saying that the band is on a break now, the begging question is: how long will the band be on hiatus?

by **Johan** Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:34 pm

Probably until they decide to tour again without doing anything for a new album. Suspect

by **Soulmonster** Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:34 pm

Johan wrote:Probably until they decide to tour again without doing anything for a new album.

I am afraid so. Fernando said they were trying to make a South American tour happen.

by **Soulmonster** Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:36 pm

A thread was started over at HTGTH were there were some criticism towards the band/management. Fernando posted in the thread. Read the post below. He addresses some questions that were sent to management from a Manet and NewGNROldGNR (members here, too, I believe), but which never got a reply from Axl or Team Brazil.

Fernando wrote:
Some dude at HTGTH wrote:But hey, at least we got some new leaks about a week ago (Going Down and couple different versions of Better were leaked, search those from the internet if ya wanna hear them, there has been a lot of discussion of these leaks on other, more active GNR forums). Any new music is a positive thing to me, hopefully Axl can now finally start working on the release of the next album.
.... look at this guy.

Spent a few hours reading through what you call "MORE ACTIVE FORUMS", all I read is hatred, racism, put downs, etc...

I along with others can come to either our forums or Jarmo's and actually learn a thing or two, take advice and pay it forward, read a thread without having to shower afterwards, unlike these other "more active forums" you claim.

One thing I learned, there is always someone in whom thinks they can do your job better than you. These people are people in whom didn't receive a lot of attention as children; or bullies that thrive in the failures of others, for the sole purpose of the "I told you so" mentality. Which is truly sad and not a way to live.

We are all on the same boat, to follow a band we love, respect and want to see nothing but the best; however the destructive criticism hinders the outcome. If your questions go unanswered, I for one am sorry - I wish I did have more time to read through the hate to figure out what the real questions were. There is a lot of hate. Have I mentioned of how much hate there is out there? A lot.

In regards of this "open letter" to management. I got mine through a Facebook PM. Please do imagine how many messages I receive on FB, thousands, which after reading these so-called other forums, I am like, oh - apparently I received a letter that I ignored and ignited further hate towards me as a person, as a minority and as a man or as most of them claim boy. In the defense of our FB administrator - he did tell me that we had received 5 questions, of the basic form wanting to know what's going on with new music, etc...

Though I am not belittling anyone in whom conjured these questions; I did not know there was a huge letter attached to it, where it got left unanswered, or as you would say in deaf ears, etc... I understand the frustration to have such a letter go unanswered. Though it doesn't merit the outcome on these so-called other more active forums.

I do apologize, if my apology means anything to some, sorry. The GNR FB post, was not an answer to this letter, it truly was just poor timing; but if you are the person in whom thinks negatively 100% of the time, whatever gets said or not said, will always gets contorted to fit your fantasy and further the hate/love towards someone you know nothing about. (I do say "you" in a general form, not directed at any one individual.)

What do you think? Personally I don't think it looks good when he so obviously makes a point of being hurt by the abuse hurled at his family from a few kids over at various Internet sites. They should be able to rise above such things. They are management now. A post like this would have looked much more professional in my opinion:

"I spent a few hours reading through some of the larger forums and I understand the fans' frustration. As I said in an earlier statement, we are currently working on things for the future and I hope to be able to share it with you in a short time. I hope you understand that I can't go in any details right now. I would also like to apologize to the authors of the "open letter" for not responding explicitly to them. The statement I sent out was not in response to that letter. I hope to be able to come back to those questions when things are falling into place. For now, I wish you all the best and look forward to share exciting events for 2014 with you all. Best regards, Fernando at Team Brazil".

I do understand his desire to address the abuse taking place on mygnrforum, but I am afraid that venue has been sort of blocked after taking a management position. It is simply not a battle a manager is supposed to take. He should rise above silly Internet thugs, take the high road and not go into battle with the trolls and haters.

by **Soulmonster** Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:44 pm

And an update:

Fernando wrote:
russtcb wrote:Everyone can't agree all the time, but I definitely think there's a middle ground between insults being hurled back and forth.
There are things which are acceptable, then there are things which are just so far off reality that should be taken down due to the mere fact that there is absolutely not progression that can come out of what was said.

I would never expect anyone to agree 100% of the time, that's just not the way the world works and I like that. Opinions are best when expressed in a cool state of mind with room for correction and/or improvement.

Racism should never be accepted. That's my opinion, and that is just that - my opinion, which I am sure is shared by oh, hmmm - millions of people.

by **Uli** Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:48 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
What do you think? Personally I don't think it looks good when he so obviously makes a point of being hurt by the abuse hurled at his family from a few kids over at various Internet sites.

What do I think? I think it's good someone finally addresses these issues.
If he was honestly hurt, why not tell the truth?
Let's face it: if it were "just a few kids", but really most of them are so-called "grown-ups" who should know better! Some people revert to kids if you let them... Embarassed

Soulmonster wrote:
I do understand his desire to address the abuse taking place on mygnrforum, but I am afraid that venue has been sort of blocked after taking a management position.

Really? Has it? Does that imply if you're managing any band you're supposed to take any kind of insult & abuse with a shrug? I don't think so.

Soulmonster wrote:
It is simply not a battle a manager is supposed to take. He should rise above silly Internet thugs, take the high road and not go into battle with the trolls and haters.

That's what GN'R & management have done for years. But it should not be forgotten that the internet is not totally away from (inter)national laws. Any kind of legal issue can lead to big financial and other problems for a forum owner. This sadly is forgotten by many forum users and Admins too! In my opinion, not only for the sake of safety for both users and Admins, things like racism, insults etc. should NOT be allowed publicly.

Your suggested text is pretty good though, ever thought of managing a band? Wink

by **Soulmonster** Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:28 pm

We are all human and abuse hurts us all. But as a manager I simply think you should rise above it. It comes with the job and no good will come out of stating the obvious by pointing out how hurtful it is. If anything, by displaying such a (natural) sensitivity/humanity the haters will just keep the hatred coming.

I have some experience in writing press releases Smile

by **Uli** Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:41 pm

I wish no GN'R fan anything bad, but these "haters" I hope will learn the hard way. Some Admins/Mods will apparently only "wake up" when it's too late (i.e. when a legal case is opened or someone reported their forum to the ombudsman). Total Shock

Strangely, it's just some of the GN'R forums where you find this sort of abuse, insult etc.! Most others are keen on keeping their forums tidy. sfhaetdj

by **Soulmonster** Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:59 pm

Uli wrote:I wish no GN'R fan anything bad, but these "haters" I hope will learn the hard way. Some Admins/Mods will apparently only "wake up" when it's too late (i.e. when a legal case is opened or someone reported their forum to the ombudsman).
Strangely, it's just some of the GN'R forums where you find this sort of abuse, insult etc.! Most others are keen on keeping their forums tidy.

The immature people will gravitate to those forums that allow shit talk.

by **Uli** Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:11 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
The immature people will gravitate to those forums that allow shit talk.

Hm, ok, now I know why I stayed in that other forum... immature me. Embarassed

Btw, you just said "shit", you naughty boy! Wink

by **Soulmonster** Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:09 am

Uli wrote:

Soulmonster wrote:
The immature people will gravitate to those forums that allow shit talk.
Hm, ok, now I know why I stayed in that other forum... immature me.

And everyone else gravitates to where there is a large member mass; it's gravity after all Smile

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EDIT: And I doubt you ended up at any forum because you were immature Wink

by **Uli** Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:00 am

Soulmonster wrote:
EDIT: And I doubt you ended up at any forum because you were immature

Oh, thanks for nice comment. Smile

Btw, I'll try and keep sharing hot news and rumours here first.
Maybe we can defy gravity. Hay

by **Soulmonster** Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:35 pm

Uli wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:
EDIT: And I doubt you ended up at any forum because you were immature
Oh, thanks for nice comment.
Btw, I'll try and keep sharing hot news and rumours here first.
Maybe we can defy gravity.

Yeah, that would be cool. This really is a great site Very Happy

by **Soulmonster** Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:17 am

So I have been discussing the situation with Jarmo over at his site, trying to explain why fans are a bit frustrated with the lack of communication from Axl in regards what he wants to do with the band now (something that was very clear in the years before CD), and although Jarmo doesn't seem to share my concern, or won't admit it, it has been a nice discussion. Fernando has chimed in and this is the latest he said:

Fernando wrote:Wow, am completely speechless how this has dragged out.

People, it'll all be ok.

GNR related news will soon be available. If that's too long, sorry.

Thanks.

(If I go and answer or give my personal views; I am unprofessional. If I don't give my views; I am a heartless prick.) Take that as you will, as you certainly already have.

The interesting thing is of course the "it'll all be ok" and "news will soon be available". Looking forward to it.

by **Uli** Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:54 am

Soulmonster wrote:
The interesting thing is of course the "it'll all be ok" and "news will soon be available". Looking forward to it.

Yeah, sounds good. Told you there is still hope and all that. Cool

by **Soulmonster** Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:39 pm

Uli wrote:
Soulmonster wrote:
The interesting thing is of course the "it'll all be ok" and "news will soon be available". Looking forward to it.
Yeah, sounds good. Told you there is still hope and all that.

I never lose hope. We will get to hear new music. But I would prefer an Axl that is eager to talk about new music and that seems passionate about the future rather than the Axl we have today.

by **Uli** Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:31 pm

Soulmonster wrote:
I never lose hope. We will get to hear new music. But I would prefer an Axl that is eager to talk about new music and that seems passionate about the future rather than the Axl we have today.

Hm, Axl has been quiet lately, just like he used to be at times before.
Sure, he did a few interviews between 2008 and 2012, but since? (In those interviews he was hesitant about new stuff, wanting to "check with label" etc.) An Axl "eager to talk about new music", now that would be a little worrying, wouldn't it? Crazy

Currently we hear nothing from him, might be a good sign actually! Mini shock

by **Soulmonster** Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:04 pm

Fernando posted this on Nightrain:

Hi there community, I know that you guys have been looking for an update for some time now; I am sorry that we haven't been able to share any. And this is not one that makes up the time that has passed since I last reached out.

We have spent some time getting our bearings back in tact after many moons of touring and we are putting together a game plan to give you what you need the most, information.

Thanks for your loyalty and know that there will something coming up soon.
Fernando Lebeis

by **Uli** Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:15 am

Hey, I'm looking forward to that! Any kind of news is better than months of silence. Cool

by **Soulmonster** Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:23 pm

Yeah, absolutely!

by **Johan** Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:45 am

Obviously Team Brazil will be far superior management to Azzoff, Merck and the guy from Kiss they had last!

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