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1986.10.31 - Ackermann Hall, Los Angeles, USA

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Post by Soulmonster Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:34 am

Date:
October 31, 1986.

Venue:
Ackermann Hall.

Location:
Los Angeles, USA.

Setlist:
01. Shadow of Your Love
02. It's So Easy
03. Think About You
04. Mr. Brownstone
05. Perfect Crime
06. Nightrain
07. You're Crazy
08. Welcome to the Jungle
09. Whole Lotta Rosie

Line-up:
Axl Rose (vocals), Izzy Stradlin (rhythm guitarist), Slash (lead guitarist), Duff McKagan (bass) and Steven Adler (drums).

Notes:
'Perfect Crime' played for the first time. 'It's So Easy' and 'Whole Lotta Rosie' played with the complete band for the first time.

Quotes:
Duff: Probably the most memorable show of this sort took place on Halloween, 1986. The Red Hot Chili Peppers, who were just starting their rise as a national act, and the Dickies were headlining a show at Ackerman Hall at UCLA, and we opened. We still had yet to enter the studio. We were feuding with Geffen about whether we had enough songs to warrant recording, and we still hadn't found a producer we liked. We reached a compromise with the label to put out a limited edition "bootleg" EP, Live! Like a Suicide, and we had finished it just before this show. That night we felt like we were finally making some forward motion. [...] For me, the cool thing about this show was that Black Flag's Henry Rollins watched our entire set from the wings of the stage and came up to us afterward and told us how much he liked our and. I considered him the most credible guy in rock, and he had a reputation as a guy who didn't mince words. He definitely wouldn't fawn over a band just for the sake of doing so. And we got the thumbs up. Kick ass! [Duff's autobiography, "It's So Easy", 2011, p. 119].

1986.10.31 - Ackermann Hall, Los Angeles, USA Rightarrow Next concert: 1986.12.21.
1986.10.31 - Ackermann Hall, Los Angeles, USA Leftarrow Previous concert: 1986.10.23.


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Post by Blackstar Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:26 pm

From Henry Rollins' journals:

I went to a show last night. I went to help the soundman set up his system. What shitty bands. What a poor excuse for music. I looked at the crowd all night. There was nowhere else to go. [...] The show was at a university. Those kind of shows are always a joke. There’s something about colleges that really sets me off. [...]The music, what a mess. All of it was so hollow. The opening band was called Guns n’ Roses, and they blew the headliners off so hard it was pathetic.

The Portable Henry Rollins, 1998

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And from a 2013 article in L.A. Weekly:

Henry Rollins: Halloween, 1986 - A Memorable Night
[...]
By 10-07-86, I was in Leeds, England, making my first solo album. Weeks later, I was back in Los Angeles.
Paying for my own record set me back quite a bit. Later that month, Rat Sound, who built Black Flag's PA system, called me and Black Flag roadie/friend Joe Cole, asking if we wanted to make 50 bucks each setting up the system for a show on Halloween night at UCLA. The next day, there we were, loading the same gear out of the same truck from Black Flag's last show.
Four bands on the bill that night. Chili Peppers headlining. The last band to load in was the opener. They were skinny and their gear was ragged. They had a lot of attitude. Joe Cole asked me, "Should we beat some of these hippies up?" I reminded him that we were working for them.
The doors opened, some people straggled in. The longhairs with the attitude hit the stage and their fans, all 50 of them, were up front. The singer said their first record would be out soon and started playing. Joe and I stood with the crowd and watched what sounded like the Sex Pistols incinerating Aerosmith. It was pretty damn good -- great, actually.
Joe asked me what I thought. I said they were going to be big, judging from the A&R men fluttering around the soundboard. The band was called Guns N' Roses.
It was a very memorable Halloween night.




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Post by Blackstar Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:39 pm

Ad in the Los Angeles Times, October 26, 1986:

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Post by Rodri Blas Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:41 pm

This was "Perfect crime" first time, not Paradise city, also this was the frist time of "It's so easy" and "Whole lotta rosie" With the complete band (The first time was without axl in the previous show) (Taken Reckless Road)
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Post by Blackstar Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:46 pm

Rodri Blas wrote:This was "Perfect crime" first time, not Paradise city, also this was the frist time of "It's so easy" and "Whole lotta rosie" With the complete band (The first time was without axl in the previous show) (Taken Reckless Road)
Yes, you are right. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:11 pm

Rodri Blas wrote:This was "Perfect crime" first time, not Paradise city, also this was the frist time of "It's so easy" and "Whole lotta rosie" With the complete band (The first time was without axl in the previous show) (Taken Reckless Road)

Thanks for pointing this out! First post updated.
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Ad in L.A Weekly, October 24, 1986:

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Post by Soulmonster Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:49 am

Apparently, the Chili Peppers had a troublesome show, possibly due to drugs, but Duff was happy with theirs and would remember Henry Rollins, whom he knew from Black Flag giving them them thumbs up during their set:

I think it went okay for us. [...] I just remember that gig because I'd followed Black Flag since... [...] But Henry [Rollins] watched us with intensity [...]. But he really, he fucking, he loved the band. [...] Cuz Axl probably matched him in true intensity, no, like game, no game. That's how I remember that gig really, was Henry giving us a thumbs up.
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